He didn't say, but this mouse study may be a place to start looking for ideas…I wonder what sort of balance he's working on.
http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/meeti ... acts/528.2
He didn't say, but this mouse study may be a place to start looking for ideas…I wonder what sort of balance he's working on.
On Cronometer under Profile>Protein you can put a little check next to Visible for Glycine (and Proline for data overload.) Mine is a little inflated because I like to use gelatin to thicken sauces / guac and often throw collagen protein in smoothies.marthaNH wrote:Nothing ever shows up next to glycine in my cronometer so I guess I must be doing something wrong.
I hear your your concerns, FC. Has someone been extolling the virtues of methionine? I may have missed that... Whenever you think someone has posted information that you believe to be inaccurate, PLEASE feel free to do exactly what you have done; post information rebutting their claim.I think these kinds of apparent contradictions illustrate the danger of these free-wheeling discussions on this or any forum. Am I wrong?
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I don't perceive a contradiction between the two sources you cite. In Dr. Masterjohn's paper, he decries our modern tendency to overemphasize high-methionine muscle meats. He notes the resulting negative effects on methylation as evidenced by excess homocysteine. He suggests ways to adjust diet to balance methionine and improve health.Fc1345linville wrote:I was following recent posts on the subject of methionine and checked out http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topi ... -and-evil/. I thought I needed more background, so I googled metionine and found, among others, this post by an Oncologist, absolutely blasting methionine in the diet: http://www.integrativeoncology-essentia ... ich-foods/.
I think these kinds of apparent contradictions illustrate the danger of these free-wheeling discussions on this or any forum. Am I wrong?
I hope I didn't leave any misimpressions. I fully understand the that the lion's share of research presents strong evidence that methionine reduction/restriction has a range of beneficial impacts. But also think there's some interesting thoughts that the issue may not be as much methionine restriction as balance with glycine (and perhaps other co-factors?). Masterjohn made a similar argument w/r to Vitamins A and D several years ago that have largely played out (as far as I understand). I should note that when Gundry mentioned it to me, he was very explicit in saying that although he himself was playing with glycine supplementation to balance methionine, he would not yet recommend to patients (but we did not discuss details of his own self-experimentation).Fc1345linville wrote:I was following recent posts on the subject of methionine and checked out http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topi ... -and-evil/. I thought I needed more background, so I googled metionine and found, among others, this post by an Oncologist, absolutely blasting methionine in the diet: http://www.integrativeoncology-essentia ... ich-foods/.
I think these kinds of apparent contradictions illustrate the danger of these free-wheeling discussions on this or any forum. Am I wrong?