Having watched the video below, where Rhonda Patrick interviews Dr Fahey, I'm interested to know if anyone is using any of these products, either separately or together.
At first glance, the video may seem quite long, but I found every moment fascinating!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0lBVCpq8jc
Sulforaphane and Moringa
Sulforaphane and Moringa
Apo E4/E4, Male, Age 60
Re: Sulforaphane and Moringa
I agree, great video. She did one herself on sulphoraphane just before that, also good.
I bought a test packet of the Kuli Kuli moringa powder he recommended, but I keep forgetting to toss it in my smoothie
I bought a test packet of the Kuli Kuli moringa powder he recommended, but I keep forgetting to toss it in my smoothie
ApoE 3/4 > Thanks in advance for any responses made to my posts.
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Yes, I was thinking of getting the Kuli Kuli myself. I did manage to get the sulforaphane and was wondering about taking the two together?
Apo E4/E4, Male, Age 60
Re: Sulforaphane and Moringa
I think he said the moringa has some different versions of isosanothianides (or whatever they're called! 
), so you may get some good synergism using both.
), so you may get some good synergism using both.ApoE 3/4 > Thanks in advance for any responses made to my posts.
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I was thinking that. It's just I wouldn't want to overdose on anything, I've never done that 
Hic!
Hic!
Apo E4/E4, Male, Age 60
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The part that got my attention was when they discussed how sulforaphane affects the brain the same way a fever does. My mom has had Alzheimer's since about 2000 and I have definitely noticed her symptoms improve for a few days after she has a fever. I need to watch both of the videos again and take notes this time, but I plan to add broccoli sprouts and moringa to both our diets on a regular basis once I feel comfortable about it.
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That's interesting, my mother's cognition always worsens with a fever. I vaguely remember that part. Need to hear again also. These were packed with info.
ApoE 3/4 > Thanks in advance for any responses made to my posts.
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Yes, I agree, this was definitely one of her most informative videos.
I'm going to order some of the Kuli Kuli moringa powder.
Does it have a strong taste? I don't make smoothies (yet) only oat bran porridge.
I'm going to order some of the Kuli Kuli moringa powder.
Does it have a strong taste? I don't make smoothies (yet) only oat bran porridge.
Apo E4/E4, Male, Age 60
Re: Sulforaphane and Moringa
When researching moringa in the past (originally stumbling across it via Tulsi Moringa Tea), I came across some potential genotoxic concerns. Perhaps these aren't an issue at normal dosages or the right extracts? https://wellnessmama.com/119304/moringa-superfood/
Examine.com mentions a modest increase is all that's needed to approach this potentially toxic area. 3x is a relatively small safety margin. https://examine.com/supplements/moringa-oleifera/
"While supplemental dosages listed below appear to be safe from all tested toxicity a relatively small increase (3-4 times the recommended dose) is known to cause genotoxic damage and may promote cancer formation whereas doses higher than that cause overt organ damage (mostly liver and kidneys)"
Examine does note that this is less of a concern with leaves than other parts of the plant. (Apparently you can eat the fruit?)
I'll have to revisit this one. The potential benefits on cholesterol metabolism are particularly interesting.
In this article, vitamin C is mentioned to be a valuable part of the plant: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4490473/ yet, this product lists 0% DV vitamin C: https://www.kulikulifoods.com/products/moringa-powder. I've noticed this with other supplements and often use this as a rough guide for their processing / freshness of the product (although, I'm not sure how well that holds up in practice... maybe this is easy to fudge.) Organic India's Moringa is 1 ingredient and supplies 20% DV of vitamin C in a 1.4g leaf serving: http://www.iherb.com/pr/organic-india-m ... caps/52476
Examine.com mentions a modest increase is all that's needed to approach this potentially toxic area. 3x is a relatively small safety margin. https://examine.com/supplements/moringa-oleifera/
"While supplemental dosages listed below appear to be safe from all tested toxicity a relatively small increase (3-4 times the recommended dose) is known to cause genotoxic damage and may promote cancer formation whereas doses higher than that cause overt organ damage (mostly liver and kidneys)"
Examine does note that this is less of a concern with leaves than other parts of the plant. (Apparently you can eat the fruit?)
I'll have to revisit this one. The potential benefits on cholesterol metabolism are particularly interesting.
In this article, vitamin C is mentioned to be a valuable part of the plant: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4490473/ yet, this product lists 0% DV vitamin C: https://www.kulikulifoods.com/products/moringa-powder. I've noticed this with other supplements and often use this as a rough guide for their processing / freshness of the product (although, I'm not sure how well that holds up in practice... maybe this is easy to fudge.) Organic India's Moringa is 1 ingredient and supplies 20% DV of vitamin C in a 1.4g leaf serving: http://www.iherb.com/pr/organic-india-m ... caps/52476
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Apod,
Many thanks for that, I don't know why I didn't look at Examine, as I usually do.
On the Kuli website, I see that they mention the toxicity:
https://www.kulikulifoods.com/contact
"However, a distinctively different use of the bark, seeds, and roots have been reportedly used in Indian folklore to causes uterine contractions and miscarriages. The bark, seeds, and roots contain different chemicals than the leaves, being more commonly used as medicine rather than as a food like the leaves. [4] Kuli Kuli does not sell a moringa extract, just the powdered moringa leaves. All of our Pure Moringa Vegetable Powder is made from dried, ground moringa leaves with no possibility of root, seed, or bark contamination."
I find the Vitamin C interesting too. I was thinking that Dr Fahey would be reluctant to stand over something that he wasn't completely happy with, which was what got me interested in this particular brand.
Examine does mention some quite specific dosing strategies, so I'll try hard not to overdose
Many thanks for that, I don't know why I didn't look at Examine, as I usually do.
On the Kuli website, I see that they mention the toxicity:
https://www.kulikulifoods.com/contact
"However, a distinctively different use of the bark, seeds, and roots have been reportedly used in Indian folklore to causes uterine contractions and miscarriages. The bark, seeds, and roots contain different chemicals than the leaves, being more commonly used as medicine rather than as a food like the leaves. [4] Kuli Kuli does not sell a moringa extract, just the powdered moringa leaves. All of our Pure Moringa Vegetable Powder is made from dried, ground moringa leaves with no possibility of root, seed, or bark contamination."
I find the Vitamin C interesting too. I was thinking that Dr Fahey would be reluctant to stand over something that he wasn't completely happy with, which was what got me interested in this particular brand.
Examine does mention some quite specific dosing strategies, so I'll try hard not to overdose
Apo E4/E4, Male, Age 60
