Stavia wrote:Hi kimberlamb - no I never did it properly, it was just far too hard to work out the macros to fit with what is optimal for me. The protein was really difficult to get to 60 grams (which I find best for me) while keeping the carbs low enough and the fat high enough. All whole food vegetarian protein sources come mixed with a significant amount of carbs. I did start, but just couldnt keep the carbs low enough to stay in ketosis with whole food. And I wasnt going to just eat coconut oil or processed pea protein. I try really hard to only eat whole foods and it became apparant that my intent was impossible.
I can see how a traditional vegetarian/vegan diet works - it is easiest to do it with a diet that is low fat/high carb. And how they have become linked. But I need a bit of ketosis to be cognitively at my best.
But if anyone has tried...
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Plumster wrote:Hi all,
I'm vegan (whole foods plant based) and eating high carb and fairly low fat. I fast for about 13 hours over night, with a longer, approximately 36 hour fast once a month or so. My fasting insulin is 1.8. Fasting glucose is 85, and my A1c is 5 (these numbers are from Feb 2020). I eat three meals a day and avoid high glycemic foods in the evenings. When I eat something high glycemic, I make sure it's in the morning when our insulin is the most sensitive. I don't eat after 7 pm, unless it's unusual circumstances.
There seems to be two schools of thought on insulin resistance. There's the one we are all familiar with, but then there's another version that advocates for eating plants and low fat and low glycemic. If you are interested in the latter approach, I recommend Neal Barnard's book Reversing Diabetes. See also his website and studies and a PDF.
Thanks for sharing your numbers Plumster. I'm not vegan and wasn't healthy when I tried it years ago, but it's great to see an example like yours for those who want to be vegan. Are you otherwise healthy too? No inflammatory issues? Just curious.
Mel wrote:What is the update on Stavia's LFHC diet? After watching Forks over Knives and knowing people personally who have been on Whole Food Plant Based diets (not adding oil or fats to their food- unless it is in the food naturally), it appears to have helped with weight, blood markers, gut issues, and memory. This is the opposite of the HFLC, which others in this group believe helps the brain.
Are there people following the low fat, high complex carb whole food plant based diet and seeing success?
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